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13thcolonyWoo-hoo! I loved tonight's episode! :)
What I loved:
I just finished watching it, and I feel like jumping up and down!!! I wanted to celebrate with them. They so needed a victory, and this one was great! :D
The scene in the war room where Bill was telling Kara that the transition from pilot to command was hard for him too was terrific! He so sees himself in her. I can totally see Kara ending up in command of the fleet and Lee as President.
So based on prophecy, we know Laura won't reach the promised land of earth, which I guess makes her Moses. It may or may not be the cancer that kills her though.
I was intrigued by 6 affirming Colonial scripture near the end. I guess in my mind, I'd thought the cylons looked at colonial religion the way fundamentalists christians look at Islam, and fundamentalists muslims look at christians. (Meaning they consider them infidels with no real religion.) Now it appears to me that the cylons, or at least the 6 in Baltar's head, view the colonial religion as many Christians view the Old Testament - a part of God's plan, but not the final answer.
I loved the celtic music in this ep, especially the song at the end.
Overthinking! That's exactly what I've said - that Lee's intellect is his greatest strength and greatest flaw; just as Kara's greatest strength and greatest flaw is her reliance on her gut. They are two sides of a coin, yin and yang. I *loved* that in this ep, to succeed each one had to do it by depending on characteristics they don't normally rely on; each had to emulate the other in a way. Lee had to follow a hunch that the tunnel would lead him where he needed to go even though there was no real evidence of that, and Kara had to rely on planning rather than reacting. Squee! :)
What did the lighter that Bill gave Lee say, please? I couldn't make it out.
I loved the backdoor plan!
What I liked:
Was anyone else thinking, "Use the force, Lee!", when he was heading down the tunnel to blow up the refinery? *g* (I think it was the refinery.)
I wonder if Caprica!Sharon is pregnant? I'd wondered if it was part of the cylon plan to have Helo impregnate her. At this point, I'm guessing it's either that, or the cylons are sending her some signal to make her sick and slow her down. This is total speculation on my part, BTW. I don't read spoilers.
What I didn't like:
I didn't like Bill's response to Lee about Kara leading the squadron in the lighter scene. I think him saying, "Because you're my son," was meant to be sweet, reassuring response, but it didn't come across that way to me at all. IMO, there are two ways to interpret his statement. Either Bill's just basing his opinion on sentiment and the love of a father toward a son, or he means Lee has his DNA, and he's so great that of course Lee will do well just because he's his son. Neither expresses faith in Lee's abilities. I think that was poor writing. Emphasizing the father/son relationship and love was the right answer when Lee expressed doubts to Bill about him preferring Kara over Lee in YCGHA. I don't think it was the right answer here.
Still don't like what they're doing with Baltar. I don't expect or even want to like all the characters or always agree with what they do. I do want them to be consistent though. Why did Baltar guess about the target to hit? Why not just say I don't know? I haven't seen any evidence before this that his, admittedly huge, ego was worth more to him than his life. In the mini-series and the first 5 eps or so, self-preservation seemed to be his driving characteristic. We've now seen him make several decisions that seem to put his own survival in jeopardy, (not telling the others that Boomer is a cylon for example), and have been given no good reason for it other than that's he insane. If that's the case, he's far less interesting to me than he was before. Now if he does become a convert that believes that God is guiding him so everything he does is part of God's plan and therefore right, fine. That would explain his making choices contrary to his immediate survival, though he would still be less interesting to me that way. But that wasn't the case in his making the guess about the target. At the moment, he's the weakest written character IMO.
*going to watch it again and then listen to the podcast*
What I loved:
I just finished watching it, and I feel like jumping up and down!!! I wanted to celebrate with them. They so needed a victory, and this one was great! :D
The scene in the war room where Bill was telling Kara that the transition from pilot to command was hard for him too was terrific! He so sees himself in her. I can totally see Kara ending up in command of the fleet and Lee as President.
So based on prophecy, we know Laura won't reach the promised land of earth, which I guess makes her Moses. It may or may not be the cancer that kills her though.
I was intrigued by 6 affirming Colonial scripture near the end. I guess in my mind, I'd thought the cylons looked at colonial religion the way fundamentalists christians look at Islam, and fundamentalists muslims look at christians. (Meaning they consider them infidels with no real religion.) Now it appears to me that the cylons, or at least the 6 in Baltar's head, view the colonial religion as many Christians view the Old Testament - a part of God's plan, but not the final answer.
I loved the celtic music in this ep, especially the song at the end.
Overthinking! That's exactly what I've said - that Lee's intellect is his greatest strength and greatest flaw; just as Kara's greatest strength and greatest flaw is her reliance on her gut. They are two sides of a coin, yin and yang. I *loved* that in this ep, to succeed each one had to do it by depending on characteristics they don't normally rely on; each had to emulate the other in a way. Lee had to follow a hunch that the tunnel would lead him where he needed to go even though there was no real evidence of that, and Kara had to rely on planning rather than reacting. Squee! :)
What did the lighter that Bill gave Lee say, please? I couldn't make it out.
I loved the backdoor plan!
What I liked:
Was anyone else thinking, "Use the force, Lee!", when he was heading down the tunnel to blow up the refinery? *g* (I think it was the refinery.)
I wonder if Caprica!Sharon is pregnant? I'd wondered if it was part of the cylon plan to have Helo impregnate her. At this point, I'm guessing it's either that, or the cylons are sending her some signal to make her sick and slow her down. This is total speculation on my part, BTW. I don't read spoilers.
What I didn't like:
I didn't like Bill's response to Lee about Kara leading the squadron in the lighter scene. I think him saying, "Because you're my son," was meant to be sweet, reassuring response, but it didn't come across that way to me at all. IMO, there are two ways to interpret his statement. Either Bill's just basing his opinion on sentiment and the love of a father toward a son, or he means Lee has his DNA, and he's so great that of course Lee will do well just because he's his son. Neither expresses faith in Lee's abilities. I think that was poor writing. Emphasizing the father/son relationship and love was the right answer when Lee expressed doubts to Bill about him preferring Kara over Lee in YCGHA. I don't think it was the right answer here.
Still don't like what they're doing with Baltar. I don't expect or even want to like all the characters or always agree with what they do. I do want them to be consistent though. Why did Baltar guess about the target to hit? Why not just say I don't know? I haven't seen any evidence before this that his, admittedly huge, ego was worth more to him than his life. In the mini-series and the first 5 eps or so, self-preservation seemed to be his driving characteristic. We've now seen him make several decisions that seem to put his own survival in jeopardy, (not telling the others that Boomer is a cylon for example), and have been given no good reason for it other than that's he insane. If that's the case, he's far less interesting to me than he was before. Now if he does become a convert that believes that God is guiding him so everything he does is part of God's plan and therefore right, fine. That would explain his making choices contrary to his immediate survival, though he would still be less interesting to me that way. But that wasn't the case in his making the guess about the target. At the moment, he's the weakest written character IMO.
*going to watch it again and then listen to the podcast*
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Date: 2005-03-13 03:08 am (UTC)Thanks! :)
As for Lee and William Adama, my take on it was that Adama may have been trying to say that, as Lee's father, he knows what Lee is capable of and, therefore, has full confidence in him.
Good point! That would make a lot more sense to me. :)
the fact that he would see himself as some instrument of the gods fits right in with his arrogance.
Definitely! That shot made shudder.