Hand of God podcast
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13thcolonyOnce again, for those of you who don't feel like listening to the whole podcast for this episode, I bring you the good parts version:
“Hand of God” = Big Mac. It’s fast food because it has explosions and other such “guilty pleasures” of this kind of show. (Also, because Ron Moore says he didn’t want this show to be typical sci fi that’s all about action and ignores characters. *smacks Moore*)
He talks a bit about why Laura Roslin’s character was added, since it’s more realistic to have a civilian leader instead of just having Adama making all the decisions.
Tyllium came directly from the original series, if anyone didn’t know that and cares. Basically, fuel is “an interesting bit of texture”, and a good plot device because they can run out of it, as evidenced by this episode. Also, it’s another example of BSG not following sci fi conventions. Yeah.
I believe he said this last week, but the part where they show scenes from next week in the opening sequence is an homage to Space 1999.
Moore goes on about the writers for a while and says that they came up with this in response to a desire to do a combat episode, which they haven’t done that many of for budgetary and creative reasons. Among other reasons, if they beat the Cylons every week, they would stop being scary. (He compares this to the Borg on Star Trek, who were all creepy and then kept getting beaten by the Enterprise.)
Laura Roslin’s plotline is supposed to be sort of a holdover from the original series in that there’s a larger mythos, with the “Life here began out there” thing. There’s the idea that there’s a story much bigger than all of them, and that “All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again.” (He says that he thinks this was the opening line of the animated version of Peter Pan. Does anyone know if that’s true?)
He then talks about the “big board”, i.e. the table thing that they use to plot strategy. It’s a cheaper and clearer way to show what’s going on in a battle than doing it all with space shots of Vipers and planets and stuff.
The scene with Adama and Kara (when he tells her she can’t go on the mission) is one of Moore’s favorites because of the actors, the material and the continuity (yay continuity!).
Starbuck backstory: She used to be a pyramid (some sort of ball game) player, and she was attending the Colonial Fleet Academy on some sort of athletic scholarship, with the goal of becoming a professional pyramid player. She blew out her knee and had to do something else. She tried out flying a Viper, and discovered she’d found her calling.
This was originally supposed to be episode 9, but it was switched with Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down at the last minute. This wasn’t a huge deal except that they had to switch around all the Cylon-occupied Caprica scenes between the two episodes. As to those scenes, in case you haven’t been paying attention, SOMETHING IS UP WITH SHARON. (He says it like that, hence the caps.)
At this point, Lee and Adama have finally moved on to have more to their relationship than guilt and anger over Zak. Interestingly, Moore talks about this scene as showing that Adama doesn’t think Lee’s up to the task, so he has to give him a good luck charm, which is weird given all that “I know you can do this because you’re my son” stuff. Maybe he meant that that’s how Lee sees it?
So Lee is angsty and nervous because Adama and Starbuck (and everyone else) seem to not believe in him, but he’s tenacious and determined to prove himself. Moore says that probably a lot of people have underestimated Lee over the course of his life, which seems rather different from the fanon view of him as a bit of a golden boy who’s always seen as one of the best.
Apparently they thought the audience might get confused about how there were two Sharons, one on Caprica and one on Galactica. I’m hoping he meant people coming in in the middle of the series, because otherwise they must have an awfully low opinion of the audience’s intelligence...
Amusing moment: Moore points out that they make a lot of little homages to the original show, contrary to the belief of detractors who think that they spend their time “dancing up and down on the grave of the original” and that they “enjoy chances to put a stake through the heart of the old show” (said in a rather silly voice).
In this particular case, they used a ship from the original BSG that was used in stock shots all the time, as one of the Colonial movers that are hiding the Vipers.
Ron Moore is recording from an undisclosed location in LA and someone was driving a helicopter around looking for him. (He seems to have been in a weird mood while recording this.) That’s not relevant to anything, but he spent a minute or two on it.
Apollo’s trick is an homage to Star Wars. In case anyone missed that. Also, the point of this was for Apollo to do a sort of crazy Starbuck move for character purposes rather than plot, just to prove he could do it.
And then he talks a little bit about the celebration at the end and how the characters all feel real, and then about how Baltar may or may not have been visited by the Cylon God, but nothing about that is particularly interesting or reveals anything that we don’t know. The end.
(This one was actually pretty interesting to listen to, so if you have 42 minutes free, I recommend giving it a try.)
“Hand of God” = Big Mac. It’s fast food because it has explosions and other such “guilty pleasures” of this kind of show. (Also, because Ron Moore says he didn’t want this show to be typical sci fi that’s all about action and ignores characters. *smacks Moore*)
He talks a bit about why Laura Roslin’s character was added, since it’s more realistic to have a civilian leader instead of just having Adama making all the decisions.
Tyllium came directly from the original series, if anyone didn’t know that and cares. Basically, fuel is “an interesting bit of texture”, and a good plot device because they can run out of it, as evidenced by this episode. Also, it’s another example of BSG not following sci fi conventions. Yeah.
I believe he said this last week, but the part where they show scenes from next week in the opening sequence is an homage to Space 1999.
Moore goes on about the writers for a while and says that they came up with this in response to a desire to do a combat episode, which they haven’t done that many of for budgetary and creative reasons. Among other reasons, if they beat the Cylons every week, they would stop being scary. (He compares this to the Borg on Star Trek, who were all creepy and then kept getting beaten by the Enterprise.)
Laura Roslin’s plotline is supposed to be sort of a holdover from the original series in that there’s a larger mythos, with the “Life here began out there” thing. There’s the idea that there’s a story much bigger than all of them, and that “All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again.” (He says that he thinks this was the opening line of the animated version of Peter Pan. Does anyone know if that’s true?)
He then talks about the “big board”, i.e. the table thing that they use to plot strategy. It’s a cheaper and clearer way to show what’s going on in a battle than doing it all with space shots of Vipers and planets and stuff.
The scene with Adama and Kara (when he tells her she can’t go on the mission) is one of Moore’s favorites because of the actors, the material and the continuity (yay continuity!).
Starbuck backstory: She used to be a pyramid (some sort of ball game) player, and she was attending the Colonial Fleet Academy on some sort of athletic scholarship, with the goal of becoming a professional pyramid player. She blew out her knee and had to do something else. She tried out flying a Viper, and discovered she’d found her calling.
This was originally supposed to be episode 9, but it was switched with Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down at the last minute. This wasn’t a huge deal except that they had to switch around all the Cylon-occupied Caprica scenes between the two episodes. As to those scenes, in case you haven’t been paying attention, SOMETHING IS UP WITH SHARON. (He says it like that, hence the caps.)
At this point, Lee and Adama have finally moved on to have more to their relationship than guilt and anger over Zak. Interestingly, Moore talks about this scene as showing that Adama doesn’t think Lee’s up to the task, so he has to give him a good luck charm, which is weird given all that “I know you can do this because you’re my son” stuff. Maybe he meant that that’s how Lee sees it?
So Lee is angsty and nervous because Adama and Starbuck (and everyone else) seem to not believe in him, but he’s tenacious and determined to prove himself. Moore says that probably a lot of people have underestimated Lee over the course of his life, which seems rather different from the fanon view of him as a bit of a golden boy who’s always seen as one of the best.
Apparently they thought the audience might get confused about how there were two Sharons, one on Caprica and one on Galactica. I’m hoping he meant people coming in in the middle of the series, because otherwise they must have an awfully low opinion of the audience’s intelligence...
Amusing moment: Moore points out that they make a lot of little homages to the original show, contrary to the belief of detractors who think that they spend their time “dancing up and down on the grave of the original” and that they “enjoy chances to put a stake through the heart of the old show” (said in a rather silly voice).
In this particular case, they used a ship from the original BSG that was used in stock shots all the time, as one of the Colonial movers that are hiding the Vipers.
Ron Moore is recording from an undisclosed location in LA and someone was driving a helicopter around looking for him. (He seems to have been in a weird mood while recording this.) That’s not relevant to anything, but he spent a minute or two on it.
Apollo’s trick is an homage to Star Wars. In case anyone missed that. Also, the point of this was for Apollo to do a sort of crazy Starbuck move for character purposes rather than plot, just to prove he could do it.
And then he talks a little bit about the celebration at the end and how the characters all feel real, and then about how Baltar may or may not have been visited by the Cylon God, but nothing about that is particularly interesting or reveals anything that we don’t know. The end.
(This one was actually pretty interesting to listen to, so if you have 42 minutes free, I recommend giving it a try.)
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Date: 2005-03-12 07:16 pm (UTC)Very traumatic.
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Date: 2005-03-12 09:58 am (UTC)Poor Lee! He needs to go see Laura. She believes in him. I'm sure she'd be willing to, er, comfort him. *g*
Thanks for the summary! :)
The Hand of God Podcast Review
Date: 2005-03-12 07:23 pm (UTC)Great review. Thanks for the post in my LJ. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
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