Twelve models of Cylon
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13thcolonyHi! I'm new here. Here's what I've been thinking about. ^_^
Right now, I'm thinking one of two things must be true:
1. The entire Galactica escape is being more or less stage-managed by the Cylons, or,
2. Galactica!6 is a traitor.
This is simply because Galactica!Six has been too useful in actually helping the fleet escape. Either that's her mission (in which case it's option 1), or it isn't, and, well.
The end of the miniseries implies that they're serious about destroying the rest of humanity. So that tends to make me doubt nr. 1. And yet...
So my partner and I were talking about this the other day (we're both totally into this show now ^_^ ) and I brought up the question:
"There are twelve models of Cylon. What else are there twelve of?"
Anna said, "Colonies." (And, of course, Tribes of Israel, but that's implicit.) And that's true. But why would Cylons pattern after that after the revolution? Dramatically it doesn't ring true to either of us. So what else are there twelve of?
Disciples.
Are they making that parallel? Speaking from the Cylon standpoint, is G!Six a Judas?
I don't think it's too much of a stretch. We know the Cylons are monothestic; they're religiously expansionist; they (as represented by G!Six) seem to dislike the pantheistic Colonial religion a lot; a lot of Galactica!Six's rhetoric maps well to Abrahamic religions in general and Christianity in particular (tho' there's just enough linguistic leeway to map either to Christianity or Islam). It seems clear that a lot of the show is about religious conflict. (Yes, I'm aware of the original 70s show's Mormon roots.)
We also know she's worked against the declared Cylon cause; is it for personal pleasure (i.e., Mr. Nice Gaius)?
And sure, as far as the stage-management theory, I suppose they could be following Galactica around to find Earth - meaning they believe in that too - but it seems... out of step with the stated reasons for chasing the survivors as given in the miniseries, which is to say, pre-emption of revenge. Earth doesn't know about any of this, even assuming Earth actually exists in this universe - it can't care about what it doesn't even know about.
A couple of arguments against the traitor theory are: 1. Caprica!Boomer and Helo; why keep him alive? There are more efficient ways to chase down holed-up survivors. Take that reason away, and you've got a lot of parallels between Caprica!Boomer's and Galactica!six's activities. But is that just methodology, and not motive? Did they just decide to use a human to hunt humans there? I dunno! 2. If they have data that says Earth is real and if they have reason to think that terran humans will eventually come kick their asses, then the stage-manage-and-follow plan works out fine. But... I have a hard time buying into that.
So I'm thinking Galactica!Six is probably a traitor. She loves Baltar because she's just as sociopathic as Baltar. Plus, she's a religious fanatic! I can't wait to see how that turns out. ^_^
Also, Anna and I also both have decided Starbuck is t3h h0tness, and are also! both hoping that Boomer pulls a Captain Scarlet. We think that'd rule. From orbit. With 50-Ktonne nuclear devices. We're for it. ^_^
Anyway! Hiya!
Right now, I'm thinking one of two things must be true:
1. The entire Galactica escape is being more or less stage-managed by the Cylons, or,
2. Galactica!6 is a traitor.
This is simply because Galactica!Six has been too useful in actually helping the fleet escape. Either that's her mission (in which case it's option 1), or it isn't, and, well.
The end of the miniseries implies that they're serious about destroying the rest of humanity. So that tends to make me doubt nr. 1. And yet...
So my partner and I were talking about this the other day (we're both totally into this show now ^_^ ) and I brought up the question:
"There are twelve models of Cylon. What else are there twelve of?"
Anna said, "Colonies." (And, of course, Tribes of Israel, but that's implicit.) And that's true. But why would Cylons pattern after that after the revolution? Dramatically it doesn't ring true to either of us. So what else are there twelve of?
Disciples.
Are they making that parallel? Speaking from the Cylon standpoint, is G!Six a Judas?
I don't think it's too much of a stretch. We know the Cylons are monothestic; they're religiously expansionist; they (as represented by G!Six) seem to dislike the pantheistic Colonial religion a lot; a lot of Galactica!Six's rhetoric maps well to Abrahamic religions in general and Christianity in particular (tho' there's just enough linguistic leeway to map either to Christianity or Islam). It seems clear that a lot of the show is about religious conflict. (Yes, I'm aware of the original 70s show's Mormon roots.)
We also know she's worked against the declared Cylon cause; is it for personal pleasure (i.e., Mr. Nice Gaius)?
And sure, as far as the stage-management theory, I suppose they could be following Galactica around to find Earth - meaning they believe in that too - but it seems... out of step with the stated reasons for chasing the survivors as given in the miniseries, which is to say, pre-emption of revenge. Earth doesn't know about any of this, even assuming Earth actually exists in this universe - it can't care about what it doesn't even know about.
A couple of arguments against the traitor theory are: 1. Caprica!Boomer and Helo; why keep him alive? There are more efficient ways to chase down holed-up survivors. Take that reason away, and you've got a lot of parallels between Caprica!Boomer's and Galactica!six's activities. But is that just methodology, and not motive? Did they just decide to use a human to hunt humans there? I dunno! 2. If they have data that says Earth is real and if they have reason to think that terran humans will eventually come kick their asses, then the stage-manage-and-follow plan works out fine. But... I have a hard time buying into that.
So I'm thinking Galactica!Six is probably a traitor. She loves Baltar because she's just as sociopathic as Baltar. Plus, she's a religious fanatic! I can't wait to see how that turns out. ^_^
Also, Anna and I also both have decided Starbuck is t3h h0tness, and are also! both hoping that Boomer pulls a Captain Scarlet. We think that'd rule. From orbit. With 50-Ktonne nuclear devices. We're for it. ^_^
Anyway! Hiya!
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Date: 2005-02-23 09:50 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2005-02-23 09:04 pm (UTC)We know that one was a real, physically-present Cylon. And she saved him. If the one we're seeing now (G!six) isn't in some way real - why do that?
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Date: 2005-02-23 06:42 pm (UTC)Caprica Boomer I think will similarly fall for Helo where Galactica Boomer is already moving further and further away from her human programming. Interesting to see them kind of switching.
In the mini someone mysteriously faxed Adama that there were only 12 models. Could it have been No.6? Where did she go after she got Gaius to agree to embrace her God? I just don't know!
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Date: 2005-02-23 07:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-02-23 08:17 pm (UTC)> We know the Cylons are monotheistic; they're religiously expansionist; they (as
> represented by G!Six) seem to dislike the pantheistic Colonial religion a lot; a lot
> of Galactica!Six's rhetoric maps well to Abrahamic religions in general and
> Christianity in particular (tho' there's just enough linguistic leeway to map either to
> Christianity or Islam).
I would slightly disagree with you in that I don't see any mapping to Islam at all. The phraseology used by G!Six (a good shorthand for her, incidentally) to Baltar is specifically Protestant Christian, not Catholic, Orthodox, or Mormon -- I know, I've put up with enough of it over the years. Her dialog in that scene was almost word for word the standard conversion spiel heard every day on fundamentalist Christian radio or television.
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Date: 2005-02-23 08:26 pm (UTC)I think they do this on purpose, to give themselves some wiggle-room.