I'm not buying it. There's no way Tigh can lead a resistance -or anything- on his own. He has to be taking orders from Roslin. I'll bet you anything she's the head.
I fear you may be right about Tigh, but I still love the idea that he might actually be capable of ... anything. Maybe under circumstances where he has no power whatsoever? Maybe Mrs. Tigh has something to do with it? Yeah, I don't know.
He's actually proven to be a capable leader under rough circumstances, usually when he's not hitting the sauce. I think one of the faults of Season 2 is that it painted Tigh far too much in the role of "Cranky Bad Guy Who Always Gets It Wrong."
This isn't to say that Roslin isn't running things behind the scenes, but I have no trouble believing that Tigh and Tyrol could step up and do the thing if they had to. That's one of Ron Moore's central theses about the series--that people can be capable of both unconscionable evil and amazing good at the same time, and you can't paint them so easily in either corner.
Tigh has a poor track record with 'being in charge'. Personally I think he's got the abilities and the smarts, he just lacks the confidence. The potential for him is there IMHO.
Even if he isn't taking orders from someone else, I suspect that he's got the idea in his head that his role is only temporary - that Papadama will rescue them, or if they overthrow the Cylons he can fade back into a smaller position - maybe that's what's keeping him from thinking 'zomg, I'm in charge?!' and dropping the ball.
As Tigh told Adama when he was in his coma, he (Tigh) never wanted to be top dog, and knows he isn't suited for it. I think you're very smart to note that Tigh probably lacks faith in himself, thus why he relies so heavily on booze to get himself through tough situations.
Here's Moore himself on Tigh, courtesy of the Battlestar Blog (http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/07/):
Sure, Tigh's made bad decisions and he'll likely make more, but isn't it interesting how all the good he did last season, all the good decisions he made, are suddenly overshadowed by the few bad choices he made this season? Tigh saved the entire ship during the miniseries, held the crew together through the nightmare of "33", located the lost fleet in "Scattered" and knew how to defeat the Centurion boarding party in "Valley of Darkness," but now that he's made a few bad calls (and some were really bad) he's called a worthless loser. What does that say about the nature of heroism? Does it mean that bestowing the title of Hero is less about discerning the intrinsic nature of a man than it is simply another example of the old game of "Yeah, but what have you done for me lately?" We love you today, but if you screw up tomorrow, you're history. Maybe that's only fair. Maybe that's the way it's supposed to work. Maybe. Again, it's up to you to decide, you're the audience. Me, I love Tigh and Starbuck and all of'em. Warts and all.
I think once Tigh gets away from that psycho enabler wife of his and finally finds his testes, he'll put aside the "swaggering bully act" and make himself into a better leader. Or, knowing Moore, he'll frak up again and make things worse. ;)
I think if Roslin's in charge she's in more of an overseer role. She was the president so the Cylons are probably a very close eye on her just 'cause. For the sake of her own security and for the the sake of the resistance and it's members she can't have active a role.
Maybe Roslin's giving Tigh a rough plan for what they're going to try to do next (after Tigh briefs her on recent goings on) and he works out the details as needed and as he's actually going about giving orders and being briefed himself.
I can't access them. The sites say they're not available in my area (western Canada). Must be because the Space channel here has the rights, and I'm not sure when they're showing season 3. :(
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Date: 2006-09-10 09:25 pm (UTC)Don't underestimate Tigh
Date: 2006-09-10 09:28 pm (UTC)This isn't to say that Roslin isn't running things behind the scenes, but I have no trouble believing that Tigh and Tyrol could step up and do the thing if they had to. That's one of Ron Moore's central theses about the series--that people can be capable of both unconscionable evil and amazing good at the same time, and you can't paint them so easily in either corner.
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Date: 2006-09-10 09:39 pm (UTC)Tigh has a poor track record with 'being in charge'. Personally I think he's got the abilities and the smarts, he just lacks the confidence. The potential for him is there IMHO.
Even if he isn't taking orders from someone else, I suspect that he's got the idea in his head that his role is only temporary - that Papadama will rescue them, or if they overthrow the Cylons he can fade back into a smaller position - maybe that's what's keeping him from thinking 'zomg, I'm in charge?!' and dropping the ball.
Very astute
Date: 2006-09-10 09:46 pm (UTC)Here's Moore himself on Tigh, courtesy of the Battlestar Blog (http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/archives/2005/07/):
Sure, Tigh's made bad decisions and he'll likely make more, but isn't it interesting how all the good he did last season, all the good decisions he made, are suddenly overshadowed by the few bad choices he made this season? Tigh saved the entire ship during the miniseries, held the crew together through the nightmare of "33", located the lost fleet in "Scattered" and knew how to defeat the Centurion boarding party in "Valley of Darkness," but now that he's made a few bad calls (and some were really bad) he's called a worthless loser. What does that say about the nature of heroism? Does it mean that bestowing the title of Hero is less about discerning the intrinsic nature of a man than it is simply another example of the old game of "Yeah, but what have you done for me lately?" We love you today, but if you screw up tomorrow, you're history. Maybe that's only fair. Maybe that's the way it's supposed to work. Maybe. Again, it's up to you to decide, you're the audience. Me, I love Tigh and Starbuck and all of'em. Warts and all.
I think once Tigh gets away from that psycho enabler wife of his and finally finds his testes, he'll put aside the "swaggering bully act" and make himself into a better leader. Or, knowing Moore, he'll frak up again and make things worse. ;)
Re: Very astute
Date: 2006-09-10 10:32 pm (UTC)And I think you're right about the booze. :)
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Date: 2006-09-10 09:46 pm (UTC)Maybe Roslin's giving Tigh a rough plan for what they're going to try to do next (after Tigh briefs her on recent goings on) and he works out the details as needed and as he's actually going about giving orders and being briefed himself.
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Date: 2006-09-10 09:10 pm (UTC)lovin' it so far
what a cool idea :)
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